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Today a woman, Natallie Evans, will go to the European court of human rights to fight for the chance to be able to have a baby using frozen embrios. 4 years ago, Ms evans had IVF treatment before she had to have her ovaries removed, and 6 embrios were created with her then partner, in order that they may become pregnant in the future. However, the relationship with her partner broke down before any further treatment was received, and he now has refused to give his consent for the embrios to be used. He feels that it is not fair that he should father a child which he will not be responsible for, however, for ms Evans, this is her last chance to have a child that will be biologically hers. So, do you think that it is right that a woman should be able to have a child with someone, even though he is no longer in the picture? After all, if they were in a relationship and he didn’t want to have a child, then it wouldn’t happen, so is this in fact a violation of the man’s rights to force him to be a father of a child which he actually no longer wants? Or should ms evans be allowed to have the embrios implanted in order for her to have the one chance to have a child that is hers biologically?
no, I don't think so it would be different if she had used them while stil together but this is after the fact. that, or if she is able to use them the father shouldn't be liable for child support or what ever they call it over there! I would think there would be plenty of doners out there if she wanted to go that rout!
To me this case seems clear cut. I don't think you can force your ex partner to have your child, be it a man or a woman. A child is a responsibility and one shouldnever be forced into creating life this way, even if modern technology has granted us the possiblity to do so. I understand she may feel frustrated that she will not hve a chance to have a child again that is biologically hers but fact is that there are tons of peple in the world who can't, she can adopt a chld (there's plenty of unloved and poor children out there) and raise it the way whe wants to thus being able to have a child but not involving her ex partner in it. I whole hearted support the man this time around. I got the feeling that if it were the other way around, sadly, people would find this propostrous (well I might be wrong and I hope that I am), I'd wish her all the best but he has as much of a say over the frozen embryos as she does and, just like in real life, it takes two people to make a child. *smles*
cheers
-B
Awww!!! This is a really hard decision. I really can understand how the woman feels but do believe that it is as much the man's choice as it is hers. But it is her one chance to have a baby and it's so sad that the guy, even though he's not in the picture anymore, won't support her in this. I'm sure she wouldn't make him pay child support or anything... Well, if it were me, I wouldn't. But yeah. Well, it's very hard to judge when you don't know the whole story and are not in the situation yourself. I just hope that it works out for the two of them.
*sexy*
I think there should be some way of having a legally binding agreement which would allow her to have the baby, and to prevent either of them contact the other for anything. if the father decides down the track he wants to be a part of that childs life, then make him go to cort, and regain that right. The problem for me is if it were the father who wanted a child and not the mother, these things have to be somehow equal, but I can't really think how, unless he could find a surrigate mother. Then if she's allowed to have the child, one day, that child may decide he/she wants to know about their father, and discover what he's like, that is hard to figure, so while it looks like I'm confused I am. lol but I esentially think she should be able to, but can't work out how. Are you confused like me now? Kev, who's wondering if he really aught to post. lol
back to bed with ya kev!
I'd have to side on the male's side in this case. Though I can't imagine the woman's anguish and heartache.
If he is the owner of the frozen embrios, then it should be his decision. However, if he transfered ownership of them then the decision should lie with the owner. He should though have the right to forfit fatherhood under the condition that his decision can never be recipricated.
I agree with wildebrew, why bring a child in the world when the man does not want to have a child with her any more, there are a lot of kids that can be adopted
Seconded, er, eighthed. I can see why she'd be so desperate, and I can't imagine the disappointment, but using his genetic material against his will is, in my opinion, a greater evil.
i think she should have the child, and regardless of sex, call it zentar. imagine how much that would piss him/her off! hehehe.
Problem is dan, someone else will have already used that name just out of spite.
ok, so those of you that say that the woman should be allowed to have the child and the father should be allowed to be absolved of any responsibility, that works with relation to child support ... etc, but what of the child in all this. What happens when this child wants to know where his father is? Because one day that child will ask questions, and what do you tell the child then, at some point that child will want to know, and at some point the mother might feel the need to tell the child about his/her father, and what then if the child wishes to go and track down his/her father. what will it do to the child, and the father for that matter, when an 18 year old child comes knocking on his door wanting to know him, when he, as the father, went to court to try and prevent that child from even being conceived?
Sb, wow, I could not have put it better myself, I was just about to add that to my original post. You can't just say "no, I want nothing to do with this child", can you. I think it can cause a lot oof confusion for the child and whatever court orders may say or determine, will the mother be able to resist her child's questioning and keeping this secret from the child its entire life. I don't think it's fair to the child really as much as the father.
Cheers
-B
I hinted at this in my origional post, and to be honest I'd say she should be honest with the child from as early as possible. As long as there's honesty though it will cause some pain, but said child shouldn't grow up hating the mother as well.